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Neil Jones
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|  Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:00 pm Post subject: Photoshop recommendations |
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Hi,
I am amateur photographer, only up to the point of taking pictures. For
the pictures I shoot, I do not process the pictures or enhance them with
touch ups etc. The pictures that turn out good are printed and the rest
are saved.
I am planning to purchase Photoshop to enhance the photos. It appears
that Photoshop has a religious following in the photo processing area.
To tell the truth, when I went to the Adobe site I was completely lost.
They have tons of products with varying price ranges. What Photoshop
version(s) are used by the community at large to process and enhance
photos? What would be the price range?
Thank you in advance for any help.
Happy Holidays!
NJ
PS - What are plugins? Do you need to buy them separately from Photoshop? |
| | Back to top | |  | Always Has An Opinion
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| | Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: Photoshop recommendations |
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Go cheap. Photoshop CS2 (if you can find it) or CS3 will be
sufficient. There's a ton of plugins which make things easier, but
I've never needed them. I've retouched photos, created 3D art and
much more with just the basic package.
You can find a lot of tutorials on YouTube as well. |
| | Back to top | | | wannabesomeonecares (A_T) gmail.com
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| | Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:37 pm Post subject: Re: Photoshop recommendations |
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"Neil Jones" <castellan2004-nschap (AT) remove-this (DOT) yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:eoq4l.1243$496.1001 (AT) newsfe13 (DOT) iad...
Quote:
PS - What are plugins? Do you need to buy them separately from Photoshop?
A "plugin" is separate piece of software which has the ability to
attach itself to the target software, in this case Photoshop, which
will then appear as an additional menu selection in Photoshop to
perform a task. You can invoke the "plugin" software directly from the
menu of Photoshop.
More detail here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plugin
Some of the plugins are free. Some are not.
Regards,
Wannabe
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| | Back to top | | | Neil Jones
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| | Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:48 pm Post subject: Re: Photoshop recommendations |
| Always Has An Opinion wrote:
Quote:Go cheap. Photoshop CS2 (if you can find it) or CS3 will be
sufficient. There's a ton of plugins which make things easier, but
I've never needed them. I've retouched photos, created 3D art and
much more with just the basic package.
You can find a lot of tutorials on YouTube as well.
Great idea! I went to Amazon and looked up for CS3 but found that it
costs as much as CS4 (even in the used section). They were listed at
$649 (USD). Some of the craigslist sellers listed it for $100 to $150.
I don't know if these are bootlegged packed with trojans in them. I am
suspicious because of the price difference between the new version and
used version.
What are some good sources to buy cheap/used software like CS3?
Thank you once again.
NJ |
| | Back to top | | | harikeo
Guest
| | Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:14 pm Post subject: Re: Photoshop recommendations |
| Neil Jones wrote:
Quote:Always Has An Opinion wrote:
Go cheap. Photoshop CS2 (if you can find it) or CS3 will be
sufficient. There's a ton of plugins which make things easier, but
I've never needed them. I've retouched photos, created 3D art and
much more with just the basic package.
You can find a lot of tutorials on YouTube as well.
Great idea! I went to Amazon and looked up for CS3 but found that it
costs as much as CS4 (even in the used section). They were listed at
$649 (USD). Some of the craigslist sellers listed it for $100 to $150.
I don't know if these are bootlegged packed with trojans in them. I am
suspicious because of the price difference between the new version and
used version.
What are some good sources to buy cheap/used software like CS3?
Thank you once again.
NJ
Howabout Photoshop Elements 7 unless you want/need the full-blown PS CSx?
<mind the rap on the earl>
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-65026616-Photoshop-Elements-7/dp/B001DMBWXS/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1230128042&sr=8-1 |
| | Back to top | | | harikeo
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| | Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:15 pm Post subject: Re: Photoshop recommendations |
| harikeo wrote:
Quote:Neil Jones wrote: Always Has An Opinion wrote: Go cheap. Photoshop CS2 (if you can find it) or CS3 will be sufficient. There's a ton of plugins which make things easier, but I've never needed them. I've retouched photos, created 3D art and much more with just the basic package. You can find a lot of tutorials on YouTube as well. Great idea! I went to Amazon and looked up for CS3 but found that it costs as much as CS4 (even in the used section). They were listed at $649 (USD). Some of the craigslist sellers listed it for $100 to $150. I don't know if these are bootlegged packed with trojans in them. I am suspicious because of the price difference between the new version and used version. What are some good sources to buy cheap/used software like CS3? Thank you once again. NJ Howabout Photoshop Elements 7 unless you want/need the full-blown PS CSx? mind the rap on the earl http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-65026616-Photoshop-Elements-7/dp/B001DMBWXS/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1230128042&sr=8-1
I forgot to mention Gimp 2 which is free http://www.gimp.org/ |
| | Back to top | | | tony cooper
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| | Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:25 pm Post subject: Re: Photoshop recommendations |
| On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:00:43 -0500, Neil Jones
<castellan2004-nschap (AT) remove-this (DOT) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:Hi,
I am amateur photographer, only up to the point of taking pictures. For
the pictures I shoot, I do not process the pictures or enhance them with
touch ups etc. The pictures that turn out good are printed and the rest
are saved.
I am planning to purchase Photoshop to enhance the photos. It appears
that Photoshop has a religious following in the photo processing area.
To tell the truth, when I went to the Adobe site I was completely lost.
They have tons of products with varying price ranges. What Photoshop
version(s) are used by the community at large to process and enhance
photos? What would be the price range?
Thank you in advance for any help.
Happy Holidays!
NJ
PS - What are plugins? Do you need to buy them separately from Photoshop?
No one can really tell you what is best for you because we don't know
your skill levels or how much time and effort you will put into
learning a new program.
However, based on what you've said above, I would recommend that you
use Adobe's Elements and not the full version of Photoshop. Elements
7.0 is $140 retail, but you can purchase Elements 5.0 or 6.0 for half
of that or less.
Elements will do almost everything that the full CS Photoshop version
will do. The difference between "everything" and "almost everything"
is in the use of some features that it takes a year or more of
experience to learn to use. I've been using the full version for
several years, and there are *still* features that I'm not proficient
in.
I also have Elements 5.0. For most editing of family photographs, I
use Elements instead of the full Photoshop. I switch over to the full
version when I have a real problem photograph or want to do something
extra creative.
You can download a free trial of Elements 7.0 at
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshopelwin/
This might not be of interest, but you can buy a Wacom Bamboo Fun pen
tablet for $80/$90 on Amazon, and this *includes* Elements 5.0 plus
Nic Color EFX (great filters!) and Corel Painter Essentials. Each
individual program alone is worth the money, and you get all three.
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida |
| | Back to top | | | Neil Jones
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| | Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: Photoshop recommendations |
| harikeo wrote:
Quote:harikeo wrote: Neil Jones wrote: Always Has An Opinion wrote: Go cheap. Photoshop CS2 (if you can find it) or CS3 will be sufficient. There's a ton of plugins which make things easier, but I've never needed them. I've retouched photos, created 3D art and much more with just the basic package. You can find a lot of tutorials on YouTube as well. Great idea! I went to Amazon and looked up for CS3 but found that it costs as much as CS4 (even in the used section). They were listed at $649 (USD). Some of the craigslist sellers listed it for $100 to $150. I don't know if these are bootlegged packed with trojans in them. I am suspicious because of the price difference between the new version and used version. What are some good sources to buy cheap/used software like CS3? Thank you once again. NJ Howabout Photoshop Elements 7 unless you want/need the full-blown PS CSx? mind the rap on the earl http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-65026616-Photoshop-Elements-7/dp/B001DMBWXS/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1230128042&sr=8-1I forgot to mention Gimp 2 which is free http://www.gimp.org/
I do have GIMP 2 but haven't done much with it. Photoshop seems to be
have a big following and easier to get some help.
NJ
PS - My digital camera also comes with some software which most people
(including myself) haven't heard of before. The software seems to be ok
but difficult to get any help. |
| | Back to top | | | ray
Guest
| | Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: Photoshop recommendations |
| On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:00:43 -0500, Neil Jones wrote:
Quote:Hi,
I am amateur photographer, only up to the point of taking pictures. For
the pictures I shoot, I do not process the pictures or enhance them with
touch ups etc. The pictures that turn out good are printed and the rest
are saved.
I am planning to purchase Photoshop to enhance the photos. It appears
that Photoshop has a religious following in the photo processing area.
To tell the truth, when I went to the Adobe site I was completely lost.
They have tons of products with varying price ranges. What Photoshop
version(s) are used by the community at large to process and enhance
photos? What would be the price range?
Suggest you try GIMP first - it's free. It will probably do everything you
need. There are several online tutorials.
Quote:
Thank you in advance for any help.
Happy Holidays!
NJ
PS - What are plugins? Do you need to buy them separately from
Photoshop?
plugins are basically code that folks have written to do additional things
inside the main program - added functionality. |
| | Back to top | | | Rich Greenberg
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| | Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: Photoshop recommendations |
| In article <eoq4l.1243$496.1001 (AT) newsfe13 (DOT) iad>,
Neil Jones <castellan2004-nschap (AT) remove-this (DOT) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:Hi,
I am amateur photographer, only up to the point of taking pictures. For
the pictures I shoot, I do not process the pictures or enhance them with
touch ups etc. The pictures that turn out good are printed and the rest
are saved.
I am planning to purchase Photoshop to enhance the photos. It appears
that Photoshop has a religious following in the photo processing area.
To tell the truth, when I went to the Adobe site I was completely lost.
They have tons of products with varying price ranges. What Photoshop
version(s) are used by the community at large to process and enhance
photos? What would be the price range?
I would suggest getting Irfanview, which is shareware and will do many
of the things that photoshop will do. Then when you see what you need
and if Irfanview can't do it, then start looking at photoshop again.
www.irfanview.com
If you do get it, please pay the shareware fee, its well worth it. 10
euros is suggested. Thats 15-20 US$.
--
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Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself & my dogs only. VM'er since CP-67
Canines:Val, Red, Shasta & Casey (RIP), Red & Zero, Siberians Owner:Chinook-L
Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L |
| | Back to top | | | Matt Ion
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| | Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:08 pm Post subject: Re: Photoshop recommendations |
| Neil Jones wrote:
Quote:Hi,
I am amateur photographer, only up to the point of taking pictures. For
the pictures I shoot, I do not process the pictures or enhance them with
touch ups etc. The pictures that turn out good are printed and the rest
are saved.
I am planning to purchase Photoshop to enhance the photos. It appears
that Photoshop has a religious following in the photo processing area.
To tell the truth, when I went to the Adobe site I was completely lost.
They have tons of products with varying price ranges. What Photoshop
version(s) are used by the community at large to process and enhance
photos? What would be the price range?
Thank you in advance for any help.
Happy Holidays!
NJ
PS - What are plugins? Do you need to buy them separately from Photoshop?
Hey Neil, lots of good suggestions here, but something I haven't seen
mentioned yet, is that you should be able to download free demos of most
of this commercial software, and see what suits your needs.
From Adobe, there's Photoshop (for the hardcore), Elements
(Photoshop-Lite), and Lightroom (different workflow, might suit you
better). AFAIK there are free time-limited demos of all of them.
From Corel (bought PSP from JASC a couple versions ago), there's Paint
Shop Pro (latest version is 12, aka Paint Shop Pro Photo X2 -
time-limited demo downloadable), or if you dig around, you can find a
freebie version of JASC Paint Shop Pro 7.
There's tons of freeware/open-source/shareware out there that will
probably also do most of what you need - take a look at IrfanView,
Picasa, the latest GIMP, Paint.NET, or Pixel32.
Long and short of it is, there's no reason to shell out money for a
solution without trying a bunch of different ones first and seeing what
suits you best. Don't worry about what's "most popular" - there's lots
of users and lots of support out there for all the different options. A
lot of Photoshop's "popularity" is people who, like you, simply think
Photoshop is the way to go because that's all they've ever heard - they
won't be a lot of help to you  |
| | Back to top | | | JR Weiss
Guest
| | Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:57 pm Post subject: Re: Photoshop recommendations |
| "Neil Jones" <castellan2004-nschap (AT) remove-this (DOT) yahoo.com> wrote...
Quote:
I am planning to purchase Photoshop to enhance the photos. It appears
that Photoshop has a religious following in the photo processing area.
To tell the truth, when I went to the Adobe site I was completely lost.
They have tons of products with varying price ranges. What Photoshop
version(s) are used by the community at large to process and enhance
photos? What would be the price range?
Start with Photoshop Elements for $100 or less. Once you get used to what it
can do, then decide whether you want or need all the power of the full
application. |
| | Back to top | | | John Navas
Guest
| | Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: Photoshop recommendations |
| On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:00:43 -0500, Neil Jones
<castellan2004-nschap (AT) remove-this (DOT) yahoo.com> wrote in
<eoq4l.1243$496.1001 (AT) newsfe13 (DOT) iad>:
Quote:I am amateur photographer, only up to the point of taking pictures. For
the pictures I shoot, I do not process the pictures or enhance them with
touch ups etc. The pictures that turn out good are printed and the rest
are saved.
I am planning to purchase Photoshop to enhance the photos. It appears
that Photoshop has a religious following in the photo processing area.
To tell the truth, when I went to the Adobe site I was completely lost.
They have tons of products with varying price ranges. What Photoshop
version(s) are used by the community at large to process and enhance
photos? What would be the price range?
Photoshop Elements 6 for only $28:
<http://www.pricegrabber.com/user_sales_getprod.php?masterid=50072739&lot_id=8567417>
--
Best regards,
John
Panasonic DMC-FZ8, DMC-FZ20, and several others |
| | Back to top | | | nospam
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| | Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: Photoshop recommendations |
| In article <eoq4l.1243$496.1001 (AT) newsfe13 (DOT) iad>, Neil Jones
<castellan2004-nschap (AT) remove-this (DOT) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:I am amateur photographer, only up to the point of taking pictures. For
the pictures I shoot, I do not process the pictures or enhance them with
touch ups etc. The pictures that turn out good are printed and the rest
are saved.
I am planning to purchase Photoshop to enhance the photos. It appears
that Photoshop has a religious following in the photo processing area.
To tell the truth, when I went to the Adobe site I was completely lost.
They have tons of products with varying price ranges. What Photoshop
version(s) are used by the community at large to process and enhance
photos? What would be the price range?
i would suggest photoshop elements for around $100. it's unlikely you
need the full version of photoshop.
Quote:PS - What are plugins? Do you need to buy them separately from Photoshop?
third party add-ons that add features to photoshop (or to other apps).
some are free, some aren't. |
| | Back to top | | | Clair Johnston
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| | Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:52 pm Post subject: Re: Photoshop recommendations |
| Neil Jones wrote:
Quote:harikeo wrote: harikeo wrote: Neil Jones wrote: Always Has An Opinion wrote: Go cheap. Photoshop CS2 (if you can find it) or CS3 will be sufficient. There's a ton of plugins which make things easier, but I've never needed them. I've retouched photos, created 3D art and much more with just the basic package. You can find a lot of tutorials on YouTube as well. Great idea! I went to Amazon and looked up for CS3 but found that it costs as much as CS4 (even in the used section). They were listed at $649 (USD). Some of the craigslist sellers listed it for $100 to $150. I don't know if these are bootlegged packed with trojans in them. I am suspicious because of the price difference between the new version and used version. What are some good sources to buy cheap/used software like CS3? Thank you once again. NJ Howabout Photoshop Elements 7 unless you want/need the full-blown PS CSx? mind the rap on the earl http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-65026616-Photoshop-Elements-7/dp/B001DMBWXS/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1230128042&sr=8-1I forgot to mention Gimp 2 which is free http://www.gimp.org/I do have GIMP 2 but haven't done much with it. Photoshop seems to be have a big following and easier to get some help. NJ PS - My digital camera also comes with some software which most people (including myself) haven't heard of before. The software seems to be ok but difficult to get any help. Big following does not necessarily equate to being the right software
package for you. Photoshop and GIMP are both very powerful packages in
the right hands. GIMP is open source and FREE. It has a huge following
in the Linux world and there is lots of support. It lacks some of the
capabilities of Photoshop, but I doubt you would notice.
Some other Free, donation supported, or open source packages are:
Faststone viewer: http://www.faststone.org/FSViewerDetail.htm combines
viewing and simple editing functions. Better functionality than
irfanview http://www.irfanview.com/ for most things. Both should be
part of your toolkit.
If you shoot RAW, consider Raw Therapee
http://www.rawtherapee.com/?mitem=2 This is a relative new donationware
package that is under heavy development. The latest beta release is
very stable and very competitive with commercial packages.
The above packages are FREE, but that should not be equated with low
quality. Even though they are FREE, if you find them useful, please
consider making a donation to help the developers.
Clair |
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