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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 12:41 pm    Post subject: feathering



Dear All,
I have an image on one layer. I have carefully erased the background of that
image, on the same layer, so that it is transparent. I would now like to
soften the edge of that layer, perhaps by feathering. How can I do this?
Thanks,
Neil
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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 1:39 pm    Post subject: Re: feathering



Dear Joel,
Thanks for such a detailed reply, it looks like a useful tutorial. I have to
come clean and say that I normally use Corel Photopaint, where I could
feather an irregular object with one click. However, softening the edges
has two functions, one to make look less mechanical and 'cut out' and
secondly to mask any mistakes. Perhaps Photoshop can do it better. I have to
work away from home sometimes and everyone uses Photoshop. It leaves puzzled
why Photoshop so completely dominates the market.

"Joel" <Joel (AT) NoSpam (DOT) com> wrote


Quote:
"Neil" <savispud (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear All,
I have an image on one layer. I have carefully erased the background of
that
image, on the same layer, so that it is transparent. I would now like to
soften the edge of that layer, perhaps by feathering. How can I do this?
Thanks,
Neil

Instead of using the Erase tool, you may want to use the Quick Mark tool
which works similar to Advanced Erasing as it gives you the unlimited UNDO
features.

Since you already have a carefully erased background (it doesn't sound
like carefully to me else you shouldn't have this kind of problem in the
first place), you still be able to use the Quick Mark command with lesser
or
more limitation on the final result (why? because you probably already
carefully areased part of the foreground).

So I would suggest to start all over from begriming cuz it would give you
more room to work with than the already erased background.

1. Making a dupe of the original photo (for safety and you can use to
finetune later if needed)

2. Creating another layer and place the Background image here (on lower
layer or 2nd layer).

3. ZOOM IN 100-200% (or whatever works best for you) then use Lasso tool
to
make a quick selection of the foreground or background (whatever works
best
for you) then delete the background (you know you can use Inverse command
to
inverse the selection). Remember this is a quick and dirty selection or
it
doesn't have to be perfect, or it shouldn't take more than some seconds to
probably 1-2 minutes depending on how handy your hand is.

If you don't want to use Lasso then of course you can use the ERASE tool
with different Opacity setting to do the job. Example, Opacity = 100% and
LARGER brush size around the EDGE, then reducing the brush size and
opacity
around the edge.

4. After done the above you should see the background with dirty edge of
the
foreground (the object you want to keep). Now

a. Click on the [ o ] Quick Mask command and applying Quick Mask command
*directly* around the edge. This sounds too simple but it's actually
is an advanced technique.

b. Paying real close attention to the "Brush Size" and "Opacity". ZOOM IN
200-300+% and use real small brush size, and very low Opacity right on
the edge. Using a little larger brush size with low Opacity on area
close to the edge which will soften and blending the background +
foreground together.

c. For best result, you may need to carefully select a good background so
you can hide the error around the edge. Or with good background will
cut down the time.

5. IF you have to deal with some HAIR or FUR then I would suggest to take
advantage of some HAIR BRUSHES. And if you are good with PEN (tablet)
then
you shouldn't have much problem replacing the background.

If you are real good with Quick Mask command, it wouldn't take more than
1-3 minutes for small print (probably around 1 minute for displaying), and
around 10-15 minutes or so for large print (depending on the detail).

6. FINE TUNING, it's pretty much a license to be sloppy or reducing time
spending on the above. So after done the above and you want to correct
some
error on the main object (foreground) then.

a. Merging the 2 layers above (copied of original and background)

b. Click on the [o] Quick Mask command

c. Studying and carefully UNDO the damage or sloppy by bringing back the
*original* to replace the sloppy spot/area that you don't want to waste
to much time on it.

** this is an OPTIONAL for spedding up the whole thing. Or this is an
addional trick for speeding thing up. And this is why I can do lot of
crazy
things in seconds or few short minutes.
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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 10:16 am    Post subject: Re: feathering



I have tried it and would give the effect I want. However let me put it
another way.
I use the extract command, I create an irregular object, and I want to
soften/feather the irregular shape.
Is there a one click solution or do I have to go round the irregular object
with something like the magic eraser?
Thanks,
Neil

"Neil" <savispud (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote


Quote:
Dear Joel,
Thanks for such a detailed reply, it looks like a useful tutorial. I have
to come clean and say that I normally use Corel Photopaint, where I could
feather an irregular object with one click. However, softening the edges
has two functions, one to make look less mechanical and 'cut out' and
secondly to mask any mistakes. Perhaps Photoshop can do it better. I have
to work away from home sometimes and everyone uses Photoshop. It leaves
puzzled why Photoshop so completely dominates the market.

"Joel" <Joel (AT) NoSpam (DOT) com> wrote

"Neil" <savispud (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear All,
I have an image on one layer. I have carefully erased the background of
that
image, on the same layer, so that it is transparent. I would now like to
soften the edge of that layer, perhaps by feathering. How can I do
this?
Thanks,
Neil

Instead of using the Erase tool, you may want to use the Quick Mark tool
which works similar to Advanced Erasing as it gives you the unlimited
UNDO
features.

Since you already have a carefully erased background (it doesn't sound
like carefully to me else you shouldn't have this kind of problem in the
first place), you still be able to use the Quick Mark command with lesser
or
more limitation on the final result (why? because you probably already
carefully areased part of the foreground).

So I would suggest to start all over from begriming cuz it would give you
more room to work with than the already erased background.

1. Making a dupe of the original photo (for safety and you can use to
finetune later if needed)

2. Creating another layer and place the Background image here (on lower
layer or 2nd layer).

3. ZOOM IN 100-200% (or whatever works best for you) then use Lasso tool
to
make a quick selection of the foreground or background (whatever works
best
for you) then delete the background (you know you can use Inverse command
to
inverse the selection). Remember this is a quick and dirty selection or
it
doesn't have to be perfect, or it shouldn't take more than some seconds
to
probably 1-2 minutes depending on how handy your hand is.

If you don't want to use Lasso then of course you can use the ERASE tool
with different Opacity setting to do the job. Example, Opacity = 100%
and
LARGER brush size around the EDGE, then reducing the brush size and
opacity
around the edge.

4. After done the above you should see the background with dirty edge of
the
foreground (the object you want to keep). Now

a. Click on the [ o ] Quick Mask command and applying Quick Mask command
*directly* around the edge. This sounds too simple but it's actually
is an advanced technique.

b. Paying real close attention to the "Brush Size" and "Opacity". ZOOM
IN
200-300+% and use real small brush size, and very low Opacity right on
the edge. Using a little larger brush size with low Opacity on area
close to the edge which will soften and blending the background +
foreground together.

c. For best result, you may need to carefully select a good background so
you can hide the error around the edge. Or with good background will
cut down the time.

5. IF you have to deal with some HAIR or FUR then I would suggest to take
advantage of some HAIR BRUSHES. And if you are good with PEN (tablet)
then
you shouldn't have much problem replacing the background.

If you are real good with Quick Mask command, it wouldn't take more than
1-3 minutes for small print (probably around 1 minute for displaying),
and
around 10-15 minutes or so for large print (depending on the detail).

6. FINE TUNING, it's pretty much a license to be sloppy or reducing time
spending on the above. So after done the above and you want to correct
some
error on the main object (foreground) then.

a. Merging the 2 layers above (copied of original and background)

b. Click on the [o] Quick Mask command

c. Studying and carefully UNDO the damage or sloppy by bringing back the
*original* to replace the sloppy spot/area that you don't want to waste
to much time on it.

** this is an OPTIONAL for spedding up the whole thing. Or this is an
addional trick for speeding thing up. And this is why I can do lot of
crazy
things in seconds or few short minutes.

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